Arguing Over Trip
How would you guys argue this?My buddy thinks that monks do not provoke attacks of opportunity when making a trip attack because the rules state "Make an unarmed melee touch attack against your...
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I mean, the explanation is specific to identifying ONLY the mechanics for an unarmed strike. It does not catergorize "unarmed attacks".True. My argument against that is that the "normal" section of...
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And so...there it is. My hat's off to all the participants. In this corner:Team 1: The argument that IUS applies to ALL "unarmed attacks".Team 2: The argument that IUS' scope is specific to "unarmed...
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But then again, you implied (and agreed with my restatement of your implication) that IUS does not apply to unarmed bull rushes, disarms, sunders, etc. Why?Quick Answer: Because of the phrasing on...
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Quote:...it ain't over til the heavy lady belts one out! There are still specific points to be made, I'm convinced. Edit: Follow up from customer service. Interesting response; I'd say that the...
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Check out the latest Rules of the Game...www.wizards.com/default.a.../20070327aSpecifically: "Unarmed Attack/Unarmed Strike: These two terms are used interchangeably to describe an attack with an...
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Ah...finally. They are going to get into the very concept with rules of the game. Should be good.Thanks for pointing this article out!__________________I own the Tome of Ptolus:...
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Hrm.So "Unarmed Strike" and "Unarmed Attack" supposedly mean the same thing? I generally disagree with that, but it does make a certain amount of sense.Which would mean that we are all right on...
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Carthain,Here is a follow up to my question as well. The first response I got, just left something to be desired, so I wanted to emphasize the concern of IUS with Tripping in specific.But, I will...
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That so doesn't mesh with Skips latest article & and the FAQ entry though.FAQ entry: Trip attempts are Unarmed Attacks.Skip's Article: Unarmed Attacks & Unarmed Strikes are the same thing.Game...
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Quote:So, why does the unarmed attack part of trip provoke an AoO? We know it's an unarmed attack. We know it's armed when you have the IUS feat. And we know it provokes an AoO "as normal for unarmed...
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At this point, I'm satisfied until I read further in Skip's articles.That's fair. And I am interested to see if he answers more of our questions later on ^_^My only point really was with the actual...
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Quote:So you're saying that you're basing it on the idea that the more specific overrules the more general rule, right?Yes...pretty much so. I've always taken explicit reference to take precedence...
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Generally I agree with that idea. I just don't think it applies here ^_^Anyways, I sent off my email to CustServ with URLs & quotes from some of the various stuff we've been discussing here. I'll...
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Quote:Anyways, I sent off my email to CustServ with URLs & quotes from some of the various stuff we've been discussing here. I'll let you know when I hear back ^_^ Cool...look forward to their...
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ericjr77, it's interesting that Skip is writing an article about this - X many days after our 8 pages (and counting!) discussion has gone on... kudos to all of us! I look forward to seeing if he...
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So... I'm wondering if the answer you get from CustServ depends on how you word the question, or if it depends more on who answers your question. I got the opposite answer that wmsmitty got...
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I had both Chris and Rob. Chris answered the initial question and Rob answered my follow up.__________________I own the Tome of Ptolus: 1A2S-063103-060808-N-W-489/1000-MX
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Confusion even among their ranks. At this point, I'm just going to wait and see what Skip says in his articles and go from there.__________________I own the Tome of Ptolus:...
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